Unsupported FSALs
by Frank Filz
Community,
We have a number of FSALs in Ganesha that have no effective support, I'd
like to understand who might still be relying on them and if there is anyone
who might step up to support them, or whether we can consider removing some
on an expedited timeline (normally we declare a FSAL is deprecated in one
release, and then remove it in the next). Note that with the magic of git,
deleted FSALs could easily be resurrected (though they might not have been
updated to match API changes). The risk of not removing unsupported code is
first that folks will use code with little or no support and open github
issues that cannot effectively be addressed, and that unsupported code may
not be properly updated as API changes are made.
The following FSALs are suspect:
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS/xfs - this is marginally supported, but could be replaced
with plain FSAL_VFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS - there is also a Lustre FSAL that is built from this
src/FSAL/FSAL_GLUSTER
src/FSAL/FSAL_LIZARDFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V3
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V4
src/FSAL/FSAL_KVSFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_SAUNAFS
Thank for your thoughts
Frank Filz
1 month
Re: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Re: Unsupported FSALs
by Frank Filz
Thanks and welcome aboard.
Frank
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Subject: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Re: Unsupported FSALs
Wonderful, I will start looking into the issues. I have already added the meeting invites to my calendar. Though it is bit out of my working hours, I hope to join the call regularly.
-Rafi
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Subject: RE: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
That is great. I just relabled all the FSAL_GLUSTER github issues that were labeled as UNSUPPORTED FSAL as GLUSTER.
If you could start taking a look at them, that would be a big help.
We also invite you to join our weekly community call, Tuesday’s 7:00 AM Pacific Time. If you’d like me to add you to the calendar invite, I will do so, but here’s the call details:
Ganesha community call
Tuesday, April 8 · 7:00 – 8:00am
Time zone: America/Los_Angeles
Google Meet joining info
Video call link: <https://meet.google.com/mkh-ctnj-tqz> https://meet.google.com/mkh-ctnj-tqz
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Thanks
Frank
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Subject: RE: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
Hi Frank,
We heavily rely on Gluster FSAL for our archive product. We have two active developers working on the project. While we mostly mastered the gluster project, we are confident that we can support the Gluster FSAL with the help of community. Since NFS-Ganesha is such an important part of our project, we will definitely want to do everything to keep Gluster FSAL moving with Ganesha community.
Let us know how we can take it forward.
Regards
Rafi
Rafi
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Subject: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
Community,
We have a number of FSALs in Ganesha that have no effective support, I’d like to understand who might still be relying on them and if there is anyone who might step up to support them, or whether we can consider removing some on an expedited timeline (normally we declare a FSAL is deprecated in one release, and then remove it in the next). Note that with the magic of git, deleted FSALs could easily be resurrected (though they might not have been updated to match API changes). The risk of not removing unsupported code is first that folks will use code with little or no support and open github issues that cannot effectively be addressed, and that unsupported code may not be properly updated as API changes are made.
The following FSALs are suspect:
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS/xfs – this is marginally supported, but could be replaced with plain FSAL_VFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS – there is also a Lustre FSAL that is built from this
src/FSAL/FSAL_GLUSTER
src/FSAL/FSAL_LIZARDFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V3
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V4
src/FSAL/FSAL_KVSFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_SAUNAFS
Thank for your thoughts
Frank Filz
1 month
Re: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
by Rafi Kavungal
Wonderful, I will start looking into the issues. I have already added the meeting invites to my calendar. Though it is bit out of my working hours, I hope to join the call regularly.
-Rafi
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From: Frank Filz <ffilzlnx(a)mindspring.com>
Sent: 09 April 2025 12:03 AM
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Subject: RE: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
That is great. I just relabled all the FSAL_GLUSTER github issues that were labeled as UNSUPPORTED FSAL as GLUSTER.
If you could start taking a look at them, that would be a big help.
We also invite you to join our weekly community call, Tuesday’s 7:00 AM Pacific Time. If you’d like me to add you to the calendar invite, I will do so, but here’s the call details:
Ganesha community call
Tuesday, April 8 · 7:00 – 8:00am
Time zone: America/Los_Angeles
Google Meet joining info
Video call link: https://meet.google.com/mkh-ctnj-tqz
Or dial: (US) +1 401-702-0462 PIN: 495 972 631#
More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/mkh-ctnj-tqz?pin=2844708468265
Or join via SIP: sip:2844708468265@gmeet.redhat.com
Thanks
Frank
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Subject: RE: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
Hi Frank,
We heavily rely on Gluster FSAL for our archive product. We have two active developers working on the project. While we mostly mastered the gluster project, we are confident that we can support the Gluster FSAL with the help of community. Since NFS-Ganesha is such an important part of our project, we will definitely want to do everything to keep Gluster FSAL moving with Ganesha community.
Let us know how we can take it forward.
Regards
Rafi
Rafi
Kavungal
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Subject: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
Community,
We have a number of FSALs in Ganesha that have no effective support, I’d like to understand who might still be relying on them and if there is anyone who might step up to support them, or whether we can consider removing some on an expedited timeline (normally we declare a FSAL is deprecated in one release, and then remove it in the next). Note that with the magic of git, deleted FSALs could easily be resurrected (though they might not have been updated to match API changes). The risk of not removing unsupported code is first that folks will use code with little or no support and open github issues that cannot effectively be addressed, and that unsupported code may not be properly updated as API changes are made.
The following FSALs are suspect:
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS/xfs – this is marginally supported, but could be replaced with plain FSAL_VFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS – there is also a Lustre FSAL that is built from this
src/FSAL/FSAL_GLUSTER
src/FSAL/FSAL_LIZARDFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V3
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V4
src/FSAL/FSAL_KVSFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_SAUNAFS
Thank for your thoughts
Frank Filz
1 month
Re: Unsupported FSALs
by Frank Filz
That is great. I just relabled all the FSAL_GLUSTER github issues that were labeled as UNSUPPORTED FSAL as GLUSTER.
If you could start taking a look at them, that would be a big help.
We also invite you to join our weekly community call, Tuesday’s 7:00 AM Pacific Time. If you’d like me to add you to the calendar invite, I will do so, but here’s the call details:
Ganesha community call
Tuesday, April 8 · 7:00 – 8:00am
Time zone: America/Los_Angeles
Google Meet joining info
Video call link: https://meet.google.com/mkh-ctnj-tqz
Or dial: (US) +1 401-702-0462 PIN: 495 972 631#
More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/mkh-ctnj-tqz?pin=2844708468265
Or join via SIP: sip:2844708468265@gmeet.redhat.com
Thanks
Frank
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Cc: support(a)lists.nfs-ganesha.org <mailto:support@lists.nfs-ganesha.org>
Subject: RE: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
Hi Frank,
We heavily rely on Gluster FSAL for our archive product. We have two active developers working on the project. While we mostly mastered the gluster project, we are confident that we can support the Gluster FSAL with the help of community. Since NFS-Ganesha is such an important part of our project, we will definitely want to do everything to keep Gluster FSAL moving with Ganesha community.
Let us know how we can take it forward.
Regards
Rafi
Rafi
Kavungal
Software Engineer
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Subject: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
Community,
We have a number of FSALs in Ganesha that have no effective support, I’d like to understand who might still be relying on them and if there is anyone who might step up to support them, or whether we can consider removing some on an expedited timeline (normally we declare a FSAL is deprecated in one release, and then remove it in the next). Note that with the magic of git, deleted FSALs could easily be resurrected (though they might not have been updated to match API changes). The risk of not removing unsupported code is first that folks will use code with little or no support and open github issues that cannot effectively be addressed, and that unsupported code may not be properly updated as API changes are made.
The following FSALs are suspect:
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS/xfs – this is marginally supported, but could be replaced with plain FSAL_VFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS – there is also a Lustre FSAL that is built from this
src/FSAL/FSAL_GLUSTER
src/FSAL/FSAL_LIZARDFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V3
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V4
src/FSAL/FSAL_KVSFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_SAUNAFS
Thank for your thoughts
Frank Filz
1 month
Development Community Call
by Frank Filz
These calls happen (almost) every Tuesday 7:00 AM Pacific Time on Google Meet. Here’s the info:
Ganesha community call
Tuesday, April 8 · 7:00 – 8:00am
Time zone: America/Los_Angeles
Google Meet joining info
Video call link: https://meet.google.com/mkh-ctnj-tqz
Or dial: (US) +1 401-702-0462 PIN: 495 972 631#
More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/mkh-ctnj-tqz?pin=2844708468265
Or join via SIP: sip:2844708468265@gmeet.redhat.com
I’m also happy to add you to the invite.
And for those still on the invite but are no longer involved with Ganesha and would like to stop getting calendar invites, please send me e-mail and I will remove you.
Thanks
Frank
From: Ruben Alcolea [mailto:ruben.crash@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 5, 2025 3:18 AM
To: Frank Filz <ffilzlnx(a)mindspring.com>
Cc: devel(a)lists.nfs-ganesha.org; support(a)lists.nfs-ganesha.org
Subject: [NFS-Ganesha-Support] Re: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
I agree with you Frank,
How often are the community calls happening? We would like to join you and start participating in them.
Can you share the link or the invitation for this meeting?
All the best,
Rubén
El vie, 4 abr 2025 a las 19:54, Frank Filz (<ffilzlnx(a)mindspring.com <mailto:ffilzlnx@mindspring.com> >) escribió:
Thanks for that.
One thing that would help is more visibility. Is it possible to make the community calls? Tuesday’s 7:00 AM Pacific Time.
Thanks
Frank
From: Ruben Alcolea [mailto:ruben.crash@gmail.com <mailto:ruben.crash@gmail.com> ]
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2025 9:54 AM
To: Frank Filz <ffilzlnx(a)mindspring.com <mailto:ffilzlnx@mindspring.com> >
Cc: devel(a)lists.nfs-ganesha.org <mailto:devel@lists.nfs-ganesha.org> ; support(a)lists.nfs-ganesha.org <mailto:support@lists.nfs-ganesha.org>
Subject: [NFS-Ganesha-Support] Re: [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] Unsupported FSALs
Hi Frank,
I’m writing as a member of the SaunaFS <https://github.com/leil-io/saunafs> community to confirm that we rely on the SaunaFS FSAL for our filesystem.
However, we have encountered issues preventing us from migrating to the latest stable v6.5, as our test suite for Ganesha currently passes only for v4.4 but not for v6.5 (21 / 23 pass successfully, 2 tests fail).
In the coming days, I plan to update our GitHub Actions pipeline to run our test suite for Ganesha v6.5, making the results available to the Ganesha community.
As part of the SaunaFS community, we are committed to support SaunaFS FSAL and keep it up to date with the latest API changes.
From our team, we would like to contribute to ensure FSAL_SAUNAFS remains supported and compatible with the latest Ganesha versions.
Best regards,
Rubén
El lun, 31 mar 2025 a las 23:04, Frank Filz (<ffilzlnx(a)mindspring.com <mailto:ffilzlnx@mindspring.com> >) escribió:
Community,
We have a number of FSALs in Ganesha that have no effective support, I’d like to understand who might still be relying on them and if there is anyone who might step up to support them, or whether we can consider removing some on an expedited timeline (normally we declare a FSAL is deprecated in one release, and then remove it in the next). Note that with the magic of git, deleted FSALs could easily be resurrected (though they might not have been updated to match API changes). The risk of not removing unsupported code is first that folks will use code with little or no support and open github issues that cannot effectively be addressed, and that unsupported code may not be properly updated as API changes are made.
The following FSALs are suspect:
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS/xfs – this is marginally supported, but could be replaced with plain FSAL_VFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_VFS – there is also a Lustre FSAL that is built from this
src/FSAL/FSAL_GLUSTER
src/FSAL/FSAL_LIZARDFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V3
src/FSAL/FSAL_PROXY_V4
src/FSAL/FSAL_KVSFS
src/FSAL/FSAL_SAUNAFS
Thank for your thoughts
Frank Filz
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